opinions on this photo

[riley_knows]

this photo was taken today december 28th. it shows a tree that is destroyed at the top. shredded like a beaver gnawed on it. but its 6-9 feet high. taller than tommy. the top is broken off and laying about 20 feet away. completely unharmed. this is near an area where we found an arch, and slants, as i mentioned in another post. could this be a VERY tall deer rubbing? there are a few other rubbings in lower areas, but not near as high. and the usual 3-5 feet high off the ground. what's the opinions on this? anything to get excited about?


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thanks for any input!
-rILEY

[Tom Shirley]

this photo was taken today december 28th. it shows a tree that is destroyed at the top. shredded like a beaver gnawed on it. but its 6-9 feet high. taller than tommy. the top is broken off and laying about 20 feet away. completely unharmed. this is near an area where we found an arch, and slants, as i mentioned in another post. could this be a VERY tall deer rubbing? there are a few other rubbings in lower areas, but not near as high. and the usual 3-5 feet high off the ground. what's the opinions on this? anything to get excited about?

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thanks for any input!
-rILEY

That is diffidently not a deer rub. Jan wanted me to post that yes you may get excited. This is their doings in the winter time looking for a sugar substance. They will gnaw on the bark to be able to suck the tree sap. I found a cedar tree by the old Carter Farm house once that 3/4 around the tree, the bark was peeled down toward the bottom from around 8ft high. Some of the bark strips were still laying at the base of the tree. This tree was around 40ft from the basement entrance of the house.

You may get some Dollar store cinnamon graham crackers and put them up in trees for a gift offering.

[Galileo]

The weirdest thing I have seen lately. I have never seen anything like that before! Thank you for posting the photo.

[riley_knows]

That is diffidently not a deer rub. Jan wanted me to post that yes you may get excited. This is their doings in the winter time looking for a sugar substance. They will gnaw on the bark to be able to suck the tree sap. I found a cedar tree by the old Carter Farm house once that 3/4 around the tree, the bark was peeled down toward the bottom from around 8ft high. Some of the bark strips were still laying at the base of the tree. This tree was around 40ft from the basement entrance of the house.

You may get some Dollar store cinnamon graham crackers and put them up in trees for a gift offering.

wow! really. that is awesome, because this is very recent. the shavings and bark was still soft and yellow. i will go back to this spot as soon as i can so i can gift them. this is very promising!

[Jan]

wow! really. that is awesome, because this is very recent. the shavings and bark was still soft and yellow. i will go back to this spot as soon as i can so i can gift them. this is very promising!

Sorry for not replying to you sooner. My computer decided to give me a fit the past two days but maybe it is going to behave now. If not it will get kicked in it's cpu.

The tree with is there doing and they are hunting for sugar and the sweet they can get from the sap and the wood itself. If you go back out there and can afford to do this take them a little honey or maple pancake syrup.
Yours,
Jan

[riley_knows]

these are closer pictures of the chewed up tree i found. i wanted to make sure this was not the result of insects.


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[Tom Shirley]

these are closer pictures of the chewed up tree i found. i wanted to make sure this was not the result of insects.

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It is easier now to see what they were really after. The ant or termites that had took up residence in that tree. You have probably heard how eating bugs is high in nutrients. If I had to eat bugs to survive, I guess that I would. It would diffidently be easier when they were frozen. LOL:shocked:

Jan said that is for sure their doing for the way the bark is just ripped off.

[Teagle]

......"Pine Beetle!"

[Jan]

......"Pine Beetle!"

pine beetles to eat. Different bugs are high in protein and the sap that lays right under the bark on a dying tree is good to eat also. Jeff did I ever show you the dead fall they had dug through at the farm for the beetles and bugs? Over next to the poop barn?
Yours,
Jan

[TOT]

Yes!
-Me introduce;make familiar with like damages.
I itself saw such in area in Urals taiga.
On its point.

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[steve a]

this is the tree, where giant hand prints went in and pulling out grubs


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[TOT]

pine beetles to eat. Different bugs are high in protein and the sap that lays right under the bark on a dying tree is good to eat also. Jeff did I ever show you the dead fall they had dug through at the farm for the beetles and bugs? Over next to the poop barn?
Yours,
Jan

this is the tree, where giant hand prints went in and pulling out grubs


81It is Difficult to confirm

[joep]

Have seen some big dead trees that been push over and debark to get at grubs and what ever is in the dead trees.

One time walks the wood with a Guy who is a bear hunter. Came upon a big tree that dead and was push over and debark to get at grubs what ever is in it. That bear Guy stated the bear push the tree over and get at the grubs and what ever.
I did some inspection as to look for claws mark and teeth marks and such. I told him it was not done by a bear and in no way a 275 lb bear can push over the tree and since there were no claws mark and such. He ask me what I think did it I told him the ( I don't know).

What is more we came upon a tree that had it's top twisted and point in a direction.. Bear Guy said it was marked by a bear to mark it's territory. I gave him a big UGH look and told him What happen to PEEPEE to mark it's territory.
He gave me an OH look. I went to the tree and said don't see any claws mark going up the tree while climbing . Bear Guy gave me an OH I see look. LOL And ask me what I think top the tree I just gave him a I don't know LOOK

For most part I enjoyed walking in the woods to search for things that Forest people use and do. And it has never been boring. I hope I have many many more walks in the woods.

Welcome TOT, to this board hope to learn more about the forest people over your side.

[Jan]

that the Forest Friends do this to the trees in search of grub and other bugs. But if we were to get pictures of them doing so then there would be not so many maybes or possibilities f their doing so. The bear will do like wise to get to grub and bugs in trees, yet they will leave claw and teeth marks when they do so. Also, a bear will roll a log over several times and basically rip it apart to get to the grub and bugs in it. If the tree is standing still the bear will not push it all the way over all the time and it will leave it's claw marks in the tree. So let us assume all over that bear are doing this instead of the Forest Friends. What about these trees and logs that are in places that do not have bear, but have reports of local Forest Friends in the area, that the trees are done the same as this? What did it, if not the bear?
Yours,
Jan

[riley_knows]

TOT! great pictures! this shows that they have similar habits in your country too!

[TOT]

TOT! great pictures! this shows that they have similar habits in your country too!

The Habits there is in each country alike.
But your, can be, do not eat the skunk? LOL!!!
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[Jan]

The Habits there is in each country alike.
But your, can be, do not eat the skunk? LOL!!!
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I have never witnessed their eating a skunk. That is not to say that they would not do so if they were hungry. I know that the young ones will eat a cat if they are orphaned.
Yours,
Jan