Archways, what do they mean?

[riley_knows]

i have found an area with a single arch, a small sapling bent over. there are many deer tracks in the area, and the picture with the three slants point towards a lake and indicate the direction of travel in according to the deer tracks. (picture can be found at http://myspace.com/ohiosicrew) in fact, all of the slants in that specific area do. that area has one arch, that i have not photographed, and it seems everything from four to eight feet is snapped and/or broken off.

i was told that i should be careful so i dont get hurt. what does a single arch mean, versus multiple arches?

this area also has a small tree that has been broken at the forks, with another branch jammed into the broken fork. (picture on the same myspace)

anyone have any hints or insight to these that i need to be aware of? i didn't have any sort of encounter, nor did i feel a threatened presence.

thank you for any help!
-rILEY

[steve a]

hi , tree bows mean several different things, if their are deer. tracks going thru that , it should mean a point of direction for food, for our forest giants, others are directions for trails to follow for meeting places, watering holes. traveling forest giants from other clans, traders, and so on, some tree bows or arches, you need to be careful not to touch them or destroy them, but please photograph all them as much as you can, you might even get lucky and catch a bigfoot in one of them, like i did, i will post that picture, later, also a lot of researchers don't believe bigfoot makes these formations , with the answer well did you see this happen, or did you get photos, , as a matter of fact , jan has seen this happen, so that is good enough for me,

[Jan]

i have found an area with a single arch, a small sapling bent over. there are many deer tracks in the area, and the picture with the three slants point towards a lake and indicate the direction of travel in according to the deer tracks. (picture can be found at http://myspace.com/ohiosicrew) in fact, all of the slants in that specific area do. that area has one arch, that i have not photographed, and it seems everything from four to eight feet is snapped and/or broken off.

i was told that i should be careful so i dont get hurt. what does a single arch mean, versus multiple arches?

this area also has a small tree that has been broken at the forks, with another branch jammed into the broken fork. (picture on the same myspace)

anyone have any hints or insight to these that i need to be aware of? i didn't have any sort of encounter, nor did i feel a threatened presence.

thank you for any help!
-rILEY


Riley,
If the trees are only one tree bent over to the ground in different locations spread through out an area, this is usually a hunting area and carcass dump of the bigfoot for their kills and left overs. So if you look around you make find a bone yard out there of animal carcasses and bones.
If the area has two trees bent in a bow shape toward each other like an archway with their tops sometimes interwoven this is a bigfoot grave yard area or a area that contains our grave yard will be near by someplace. You do not want to enter this area if they have in front of this bowed archway up in two trees an uprooted tree or log balanced at eight to ten foot up like it is blocking the archway. You just do not disturb the dead. They will run you out of there if this be the case.
The young tree with the branch logged in it is a trail marker that should be pointing toward a water supply close by.
Yours,
Jan

[riley_knows]

what about arches near homes? is there anything to note about them being within fifty feet from a human home? i'm going to go check out an area this weekend (i hope) that has this situation going on.

[Jan]

what about arches near homes? is there anything to note about them being within fifty feet from a human home? i'm going to go check out an area this weekend (i hope) that has this situation going on.

Archways near our homes are a pretty good indicator that the bigfoot are getting food from the houses nearby. Look for two little tee pee formations at about fifty foot in front and slightly to the sides one either side of the archway coming from in the woods. These should only stand at about three to four feet tall. This is the bigfoot way of marking this particular house as a food resource and it means to other bigfoot that this is this family groups place to get food from.
You may also look to see if there is any trail that leads under the archway and follower it for about 100 yards back if you can keep to it and you may also find a pyramid pile of rock off to the side of this trail. The top rock will then show you which direction they have come and are going to because the top rock is almost always pointed on each end.
The ground will always be packed down from where they have walked. If you are walking on soft ground then it is not their trail. On any deer trail that they follow their trail will usually, but not always, be off fifty foot to the left hand side of the deer trail.
You may find also out there what looks like someone has dug out a grave site of about three to four feet into the earth and piled the dirt on the left hand side. This is one of their hunting blinds for deer. They will have one of the family lay in this dug out and the others will drive the deer toward it and when the deer goes to jump the pile of dirt the one in the blind reaches out and grabs it by a leg. They don't always use this method to catch deer but it makes it easier on the younger ones to get catch a deer. The adult bigfoot will just chase a deer down and kill it. If you find one of these blinds out there you can pretty well bet that the family group has at least one child under the age of six years old.
Yours,
Jan

[squatchmo]

Hello Jan,

I'm sending some pictures of some recent tree formations I found here in NE Ohio. Look at them and let me know if you think they mean anything.

I found a structure of a large dead tree that looks like it was purposely pushed over to rest between two small trees crossed over each other to form an X. Behind this and to the left from where I took the picture I noticed a tree arch also. It is parallel to the big log so the ends of them are both pointing in the same direction. The end of the big dead tree on the ground is laying next to the stump it came from. The two small trees crossed over are rooted in the ground. They were just crossed over from where they are growing to form the X. I took the pic showing this structure from on the trail and then went around behind the tree arch and took another pic that would be facing the trail I was on showing the arched tree closest to me. This is on a ridge overlooking a valley with a creek and a river down below.On the arched tree the end of it has been pushed into the ground and some large branches were put there to help hold it down.

The trail is hard packed gravel. Two weeks before this someone else found what looks like two left prints and one right print on the trail near the tree location. They were found 30 minutes after a heavy down pour. I'm sending one of the print pics. The prints were about 14" long with about a 4' stride. This is approximate since they didn't have a tape measure. The day I found this tree structure I found a 15 1/2" print on the bank of the trail nearby. It showed toes and the heel but the pic of it didn't turn out good.

The girl that found the 3 prints a couple weeks earlier said that when she was taking the pictures of them there was a loud thud and an 70 foot tall tree started shaking violently in the woods close by. This scared her and her husband bad enough that they left immediately.

There is other tree sign nearby along this trail and another trail. There is a 3" to 4 inch diameter tree snapped about 5' up and a sapling down the trail that was twisted and broken abut 5' up. On another trail there is a 2" diameter tree that is twisted and snapped about a foot up but was left laying across the trail.

On the other side of the trail from where I took the tree structure pics was a hole behind a large tree with the dirt piled up along one side. The hole was about 3' deep and the pile was about 2' high. This would provide good concealment.

Down the trail about 500 feet is a deer skeleton off in the woods a little ways. There are many deer prints around. This is a very rural park that gets light usage.

This location is 30 miles east of me. I have found and have some pics of other tree arches in a spot 25 miles south east of me.

Thanks,
squatchmo
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Here's a print found on the gravel trail 3 weeks ago 30 minutes after a down pour at 8:30pm.
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[Regina]

Squatchmo, I like your pictures. What I have seen in the Jersey Pinelands are trees pushed over at their bases across dirt roads that run throughout the forest. I was curious about them. At first I thought they were blown over by storms, but now I just don't think so.

Regina

[squatchmo]

Is the Pinelands in Jersey the same as the Pine Barrens? That's a hot spot. I've seen picks of tree structures from there. One guy found a print by a tree arch. I've got another area with quite a few arches. One arch is pretty big and old looking. The 2 areas I've been looking at have old and recent BF reports close by.

[Regina]

Yes Squatchmo! The Pinelands and the Pine Barrens are the same and from what I have heard and seen lately, the Pine Barrens of NJ is an active spot. I have seen tree structures like the ones featured in your post in many places in the Pine Barrens, but my favorites are the pushed over trees over the dirt roads, which we have by the miles! It makes you feel like you are going under a bridge. Will have to remember to take pictures!

Regina

[squatchmo]

The picture of the tree laying on the crossed over trees is the first different structure I found beside tree arches so I was thrilled to death when I first saw it and to top it off is a tree arch behind it. I found out about this park from a girl that posted her pics on another forum. I asked her if she had seen any tree arches or other structure there. She told me about 2 tree snaps she saw. That was it. I got ahold of her and we went to the park last Saturday to look around. She had walked by the structure I posted the pic of and a tree snap/twist when she found 3 prints about 3 weeks ago so she was a little surprised to. It's nice to have someone to go Squatch'n with. We plan on going back to the park somemore and a new location about 20 miles south of the park. There's a lot more of the park to look at. I just got delivery of 50 lbs of UltraCal 30 plaster for casting prints today. I just started going out looking for BF sign since about March.

[Jan]

I hesitate to tell you exactly what these markers mean. This is a highly spiritual place to them. You need to use extreme caution when researching areas with these type markers in them. You walking on holy ground and that is why the girl and her husband were warned out of the area.
The dug out in the ground is a hunting blind they can effectively use to get in and hide so that other members of the group can herd a deer toward the waiting party and they can reach out and grab it by the leg when it passes them. They will use these dug outs to hunt larger game from it cuts down the time actually spent in having to chase a deer or hog down.
The broke sapling is an indicator of whom is in charge of the area, what male controls or is leader of this particular family group. The other tree twist show what direction the group travels. there should also be rock markers along the trails these trees point to close to the tree twist.
The first rock markers should be laid out in a line along the edge of the trail, one big rock to represent the adult male that is leader, a slightly smaller stone or stones to indicate his mate(s)/wife(s). If these mates are sister wifes the two stones or ever how many will be sitting side by side. The children in the family group will be marked by smaller stones yet and depending on which female is their mother they will lay in accordance to her stone.
At the next tree twist you should go off the beaten trail about ten foot and find an actual rock marker of stacked rocks, the top rock will indicate the way they actually travel this trail. I'm sorry but I am not telling you what end tells you the way to go to find them.
Above all else use caution in this area near and up to a half mile radius of the X and Bow markers.
Yours,
Jan

[squatchmo]

Jan,

Thanks for the info. I'll be cautious when I go back there. I'll stick to the trails and won't make a habit of going there to often. I'll look for rock structures like you described.

squatchmo

[squatchmo]

Above all else use caution in this area near and up to a half mile radius of the X and Bow markers.
Yours,
Jan

Jan,

Do you mean be cautious when X and Bow markers are used together or be cautious around either one if seen separately? I now an area that has many Bow markers that stand alone with no X markers around.

Thanks,
squatchmo

[Regina]

Oh good luck to you both!

Regina

[squatchmo]

Jan,

I found this tee-pee structure. It looks like the earth around it was scooped out and piled in a mound to form the base before the structure was started. What does this mean? I also have a question regarding the other structures I found two post before this one I was hoping you would answer.

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I also found what looks like a right footprint nearby. It was
16 1/2" long.

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[Jan]

Jan,

Do you mean be cautious when X and Bow markers are used together or be cautious around either one if seen separately? I now an area that has many Bow markers that stand alone with no X markers around.

Thanks,
squatchmo

Just the areas with both markers together like in these photos. The ones with just bowed trees or just X markers are fine to be around, and in the area. They mark such things as play ground for children, water ways, game trails, and the like. Just use the caution when in the area with the X with the tree in it and the bowed tree near the X marker. Trust me if you get to close to their spiritual ground they are going to make you very aware of their being in the area and your not being welcomed there. They will try scaring you with screams and tossing rocks in your direction. They should not hit you with the rocks but if you insist on getting closer they will hit you and it will not be with pebbles it will be with big rocks that hurt.
One more thing to take note of is any hawks or large birds of prey in the area. The Forest Friends use these birds as their eyes in the sky.
Yours,
Jan

[Jan]

This structure is a child's tee pee to rest and sleep in while it's parents are off doing what they may. There should be a larger Tee Pee not as full within fifty to a hundred feet of this structure that belongs to the mother. Her structure will be on the West side of the child's formation. I'm not suggesting you tear the tee pee apart here but if you feel comfortable with doing so go inside this formation structure and dig down in the dirt to around eight inches and see if you find a woven grass mat in there. This structure looks to be abandon right now to me. So I am thinking that the child is older now and does not use this structure any longer. Had this structure still been in use it would have a lot of green forage still on it and the covering limbs and trees used would have been green and leafy totally concealing the child from our view.

The footprint is probably the females print. Sounds like about the general size of an adult females foot. Males run larger and longer when grown. A male child that is not fully grown will have a bulge on the outer side of the foot below the little toe behind the ball of the foot. this generally lengthens and straightens as the young males foot reaches it maturity. The young female has this bulge on both sides of her foot below the ball of the foot until her foot reaches maturity growth.

Yours,
Jan


Jan,

I found this tee-pee structure. It looks like the earth around it was scooped out and piled in a mound to form the base before the structure was started. What does this mean? I also have a question regarding the other structures I found two post before this one I was hoping you would answer.

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I also found what looks like a right footprint nearby. It was
16 1/2" long.

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[squatchmo]

Thanks Jan. On one side of the tee-pee the branches aren't to close together like it is an opening to get in and out of. I was thinking about going in side to try it out but didn't. I'll try it next time I go there. It does look like it has been abandoned for a while. I'll look for a larger tee-pee structure nearby.

[lagan]

Jan posted "One more thing to take note of is any hawks or large birds of prey in the area."

Jan,
I do see them in area I leave gifts at alot. About 5 years ago I noticed a dead hawk hanging by one wing, about 4 ft up in a small tree along the trail, about 100 ft from where I was leaving gifts. It hung there for 2 or 3 months at least, as I passed by it often. Just always wondered if it meant anything as a message, as I thought it very odd?

Thanks,
lagan

[Jan]

Lagan,

I can't tell you if the hawk in the tree was a message or not, with any certainty. The best I can do is say, perhaps. My feelings and pure speculations on this would be that, possibly a scavenger came across the dead hawk and carried it up the tree and something frightened it away before it consumed the hawk.

Here is what I know about the Forest people and their care of their feathered friends. Once a Hawk, Raven or other bird they keep dies they usually take the flight feathers from it and bury it's body. They will use the flight feathers from this beloved bird in ceremonies they hold.

Now had it been a Turkey and been hanging like that by the wing I would have told you that it was of their doing and they had planned on returning for the bird later for their lunch and possibly forgotten about it. I'll take a for instance here. They will trap or capture a bird for a meal and they may hang it in a tree between a forked strong limb by the wing or neck to better be able to pull the feathers and take out the intestines, hooks on the wings, gizzard, and other parts of the bird they don't eat. But you don't usually find the bird intact. You find the feathers, gizzard, intestines, hooks and feet of that bird instead laying on the ground under the tree they made use of.

Would you mind explaining how the hawk was attached in the tree by the wing. Tom S. would like to know more about this.

Thank you,
Jan

[lagan]

To the best of my memory the hawks wing appeared to have been pearced possibly and slid about halfway down the small 3 ft long branch of 8 ft elm tree.

Also in same area a friend found two crows hanging in two seperate small trees, both appeared to be pearced through neck and hung halfway down small branches. He broke off branch with one on it and took it.

He hung branch with crow attached on back of hayrack near 200 ft long silage bags. He had been having trouble with crows pecking holes in the bags and had heard hanging a dead crow nearby would keep them away.

He had been wondering where and how to find a dead crow for awhile, then there they where hanging in trees along path he used to get to summer manure pile back in woods by one his fields. He said he decided to get the second one also later to put near other end of bags, but it was nowhere to be found when he returned for it.

He has seen one of their footprints in his field back in the woods years ago and looked at other stuff with me in the area. I think the locals fixed him up with not one dead crow, but two for the taking, nice of them,jmo.

lagan

[Jan]

Lagan,
I also think the crows were gifts to help the man with pest control of the pest crows robbing his crops. But the Hawk is a different and new one on me as I just never have seen them kill and hang a hawk like this gift or otherwise.
Thank you for sharing this information. We live and learn something new each day.
Yours,
Jan

[Tom Shirley]

Hi lagan,

Thank You for the update about how the hawks wing was attached to the branch.

Could this have been an accidental flight of the hawk, or could you tell if smaller branches were removed so the hawk could be slid down the 3ft branch?

Also, was the hawk all the way to the trunk of the elm tree?

That does sound like a gift offering to me also about the crows, as I have heard that hanging a dead crow to ward off other crows works also. They must have known that he would need two, one for each end of the building. Interesting indeed. (yes)

Tom S.

[lagan]

Tom S asked "Could this have been an accidental flight of the hawk, or could you tell if smaller branches were removed so the hawk could be slid down the 3ft branch?

Also, was the hawk all the way to the trunk of the elm tree?"

No, it didn't look like anything accidental flight related for the hawk or the one crow on a branch that I saw that friend got.

The small branches and even leaves on them were still intact and didn't appear ruffed up at all and no ragged hole in birds. Both hawk and crow were about halfway down the branches they were on. That was the oddest thing about it, how they could be on there like that.

And no I didn't even think to get a picture and they hung around for months.

lagan

[Tom Shirley]

Tom S asked "Could this have been an accidental flight of the hawk, or could you tell if smaller branches were removed so the hawk could be slid down the 3ft branch?

Also, was the hawk all the way to the trunk of the elm tree?"

No, it didn't look like anything accidental flight related for the hawk or the one crow on a branch that I saw that friend got.

The small branches and even leaves on them were still intact and didn't appear ruffed up at all and no ragged hole in birds. Both hawk and crow were about halfway down the branches they were on. That was the oddest thing about it, how they could be on there like that.

And no I didn't even think to get a picture and they hung around for months.

lagan

Thank You very much lagan for your answers to my questions.

Tom S.

[Duke0002]

Any idea what this tepee means?


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[Duke0002]

2 weeks ago, Jan wrote: "The dug out in the ground is a hunting blind they can effectively use to get in and hide so that other members of the group can herd a deer toward the waiting party and they can reach out and grab it by the leg when it passes them. They will use these dug outs to hunt larger game..."

I have seen 3, maybe 4 of these dugouts on the edges of hay fields abutting woods. The mounded soil is always facing the field. Several of these dugouts are surprisingly large and 2 men can fit in them. I've always assumed that the farmer dug them for some reason. I'll ask if he made them with a back hoe.

These dugouts are in an area with a large deer population. While it might be difficult to channel deer past these, they would make excellent ambush locations.

Thanks for mentioning these, Jan. I never knew.... I'll be sure to pay more attention on my outings.

-Duke

[Tom Shirley]

Any idea what this tepee means?


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Hi Duke0002,

I saw that you tried to attach an image here when moderating the post, but it did not down load properly. Read this Faq page on attaching files or images to your post, it may help.

Tom S.

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[Jan]

Hi Duke,

That formation is typical of an indicator that the water that is there is not good for drinking. If you want good drinking water you go in the direction the longer stick is pointing in from the top of the tee pee, in order to get a drink of water.

Bet if you were to look around close by you find half a dozen small X markers around this tee pee.

So tell me what water is stagnant there and basic standing water?

If there is quicksand or ooze in the middle of the water that they can sink deeply in and not get out easily you should find a rather odd looking tee pee with an X laying perfectly balanced in the top forks of the tee pee formation.

Yours,
Jan

[Duke0002]

Jan wrote: "So tell me what water is stagnant there and basic standing water?"

Yes, the longest stick is pointing southward to a 2 acre pond hidden between woods and overgrown fields. The pond is about 300 plus yards away and is very isolated with very little human activity. There are fish in the pond and the water looks healthy. In April tons of geese and ducks were on the pond and a very good place for waterfowl to nest. A small island is in the pond. However, one month later no waterfowl were seen. I thought it unusual. Adjacent to the pond large powerlines running along in a ditch/recessed area.

There are large stagnant pools of water on the side the path where the tepee is located. You can see one of them it a pic. The area there is very soggy.

Interesting, that 7 weeks later this tepee is still in great shape. It's sheltered well from the wind or perhaps maintained. The path is very muddy at that point and no footprints have been found on it. No prints found in the floor litter either. These boys must be very good at not leaving prints.

I did not notice an X on top of the structure, but wasn't looking for it. I did notice a small stick balancing in the middle of the top portion, and "see-sawed" it with my finger. My son who took the pics said, "Dad, this structure couldn't have been made accidentally. Someone had to make it." The old man isn't as crazy as he seems when it comes to BF! lol

Not too far away, there are 2 very high tree bows (apex about 15 ft) just off the path, wedged high into other, larger, trees. One was behind the other (looking from the path). It does not look as if these were caused by natural windfalls.

One month ago, in the same woodlot (between the tepee and pond), I noticed 2 stick structures. One had several branches laying against a tree and very long (20 ft plus) dead tree trunk horizontally wedged between 2 living trees. The large horizontal tree trunk was approximately 4 ft above the ground at the wedge point. I noticed mud spread on one of the upright living trees about 10 inches from the ground. I followed the direction of the horizontal indicator and a short distance later found another slightly bent tree wedge about 15 ft up into another tree. 1 small stick was placed vertically on the upright tree. This week, I could not locate these 2 structures. Perhaps I was looking in the wrong spot, as I was pressed for time.

I took pics of all this, but they didn't turn out.

I wrote all this in a hurry. If I'm unclear let me know.

[Duke0002]

Jan, another question about the meaning of other stick structures. In 2 different areas I found:

1) A sapling arched over and the top branches wedged onto another tree. There were 3 or so sticks placed directly underneath the bent sapling, pushed into the ground and either a) resting on the arch or b) their top forks fitted up under the arched sapling. Don't know if its a coincidence, but it was approx 8 feet off of a deer/wildlife trail.

2) On a steep hillside overlooking a bean field, a larger dead branch with one end resting on the ground and the other wedged onto a standing tree (at approx a 90 degree angle). Again, several sticks were pushed into the ground directly underneath, either resting on or forks fitted up under the leaning branch.

In both cases these were 5-6 feet high at their highest point. IMO it is very doubtful that the structures occurred naturally. My first thought was that these were makeshift blinds used by human hunters to break up their profile. Just wondering if you had any insight to these formations?

Thanks.

[Jan]

Jan wrote: "So tell me what water is stagnant there and basic standing water?"


Interesting, that 7 weeks later this tepee is still in great shape. It's sheltered well from the wind or perhaps maintained. The path is very muddy at that point and no footprints have been found on it. No prints found in the floor litter either. These boys must be very good at not leaving prints.

This structure will stand for years and yes they do maintain them if they start falling apart. They cover their tracks, so unless you happen along before they are able to do so, you will not find them. Also they walk different than we do, and if they are careful about the way they place their foot down they will not make that deep of an impression anyway. We are under the misconception that someone that weights a lot will leave a print. Think about it this way, even a 1500 pound horse can step in mud and not leave a print that is traceable when they are walking carefully. The FF are masters at not leaving their foot prints so we can find and follow them. They are smart, I'm telling you. Over the years I never even think to look for foot prints, I just follow their signs in the woods to find them if I don't call them out to come to visit me. But then not everyone knows how to follow their signs. Best to keep it that way for the most part so no one gets harmed, them or us.


I did not notice an X on top of the structure, but wasn't looking for it. I did notice a small stick balancing in the middle of the top portion, and "see-sawed" it with my finger. My son who took the pics said, "Dad, this structure couldn't have been made accidentally. Someone had to make it." The old man isn't as crazy as he seems when it comes to BF! lol

Ah! The old see saw trick atop the water marker structure. LOL Well this is going to be after the fact of your telling it but that is the indicator the ducks were on the pond and make good eating for a hungry ole Foot looking for an easy meal. Now let me ask you this since there is fish in that pond there did you happen to notice any Y sticks stuck in the ground with a long stick laid in the Y or Two Y sticks that are about four of five inches tall with a four of five foot long cross stick stuck in their Y's? Also they will use a Y in a tree for this too and stick a stick in the Y and the other end in the ground. This is a drying rack for the fish they catch if they are fishing for an entire family.

Not too far away, there are 2 very high tree bows (apex about 15 ft) just off the path, wedged high into other, larger, trees. One was behind the other (looking from the path). It does not look as if these were caused by natural windfalls.

I'm not c;ear on this number but let me see if I am getting this right. Your saying that the trees are bowed to wedge their tops down into the branches of another tree correct? If this is what you are saying the next time you are out there check those trees for what you may be thinking is just vines hanging from them. When they need these tree for snaring game such as coyotes and wild pigs they attach hemp rope or large strong vine snare ropes in them and they bend the tree the opposite direction and when the animals takes the bait it snares them and whammy there is lunch dangling by the foot. All they have to do is lay in wait a few hours and they come back when the animal is caught and take it down and kill and eat it. They will do this with Raccoon too. Makes for an easy meal.

One month ago, in the same woodlot (between the tepee and pond), I noticed 2 stick structures. One had several branches laying against a tree and very long (20 ft plus) dead tree trunk horizontally wedged between 2 living trees. The large horizontal tree trunk was approximately 4 ft above the ground at the wedge point. I noticed mud spread on one of the upright living trees about 10 inches from the ground. I followed the direction of the horizontal indicator and a short distance later found another slightly bent tree wedge about 15 ft up into another tree. 1 small stick was placed vertically on the upright tree. This week, I could not locate these 2 structures. Perhaps I was looking in the wrong spot, as I was pressed for time.

Not sure again if I follow you here, but let me take an educated guess. The first structure looked something like a lousy made lean-to under that live tree with the branch covering sort of, but not entirely, concealing the trunk of the live tree? Was it facing the Pond? If so that was a sitting blind so they could hunt duck and geese. So you need to start hunting the area for a stone tossing bola that look like a deer leather hide strap with the opposite end having the strap splitting into at least three strips of leather and that have pockets or slits on the end that the stones can be placed in and whirled around the head and when left fly either tangle around the bird in mid rise flight or come loose and hit the bird to kill it. Here is a picture of a bola but not one of their making for an idea of what to look for. that other structure is a hanging rack for the captured duck or geese until they get enough to feed the family. They hang them by the feet that are tied together over the tree that is wedged in the other tree. You will not find these structures again until they are in need of hunting duck and water fowl again, They take and dismantle them after use.

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Yours,
Jan

[Jan]

Jan, another question about the meaning of other stick structures. In 2 different areas I found:

1) A sapling arched over and the top branches wedged onto another tree. There were 3 or so sticks placed directly underneath the bent sapling, pushed into the ground and either a) resting on the arch or b) their top forks fitted up under the arched sapling. Don't know if its a coincidence, but it was approx 8 feet off of a deer/wildlife trail.

This one is easy enough and I guess you could say it has to do with the deer trail if you like. You simply go the direction the bend tree is facing. You will find so many of them dug out blind holes in a straight line along the way and the others will be slightly off to the sides so many feet depending on the angle of sticks lay on that bent sapling. Now i am not suppose to be telling this yet but I'm going to anyway. Their measurement in feet are not the same 12 inches ours are, so you give or take an inch or two for a foot here all right. (How did I do on dancing my way around that direct answer? I did not tell exactly how to do their measurements so unless you are very smart and up on this be careful of you may break a leg in a hole out there that has been concealed.) Be careful Duke when you are out there if you follow these kind of markers that you don't fall into a hunting pit. They camouflage the dug out pit opening with branches and leaf litter and if you fall in you are going to encounter sharpened sticks that may or may not have arrow heads on them that have been tainted with poison from a viper/poisonous snake. Timber and Pine rattlers work for this if there is none other around there. These are used for wild hog mostly but they work well on other unsuspecting animals too.

2) On a steep hillside overlooking a bean field, a larger dead branch with one end resting on the ground and the other wedged onto a standing tree (at approx a 90 degree angle). Again, several sticks were pushed into the ground directly underneath, either resting on or forks fitted up under the leaning branch.


There is rabbit in that field they snare. Take a walk sometime down the rows of beans and see if you notice any vine or very thin leather or string tangled among the bean bushes. Also look up in the trees in forks of the branches around the edge of the bean field for up to 15 feet inside the wood line there, there should be rabbit heads and pelts hanging from the forked branches if something has not carried them off. They skin a rabbit by rolling the skin upward from the hind feet and sometimes they even take the skull, Same skinning methods apply to squirrel they eat. I have a photo somewhere of this little number let me see if I can find it and I'll insert it here if I can locate it.

In both cases these were 5-6 feet high at their highest point. IMO it is very doubtful that the structures occurred naturally. My first thought was that these were makeshift blinds used by human hunters to break up their profile. Just wondering if you had any insight to these formations?

Nope those are not naturally occurring structures. They are big hairy people made with big hands structures. They are not human hunter blinds either. Hope this helps. Sounds like your area has a good supply of game, water and fish to keep a large sized family of our big hairy neighbors happy and fat.
Your welcome,
Jan

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[BlueMountainTracker]

Great info on this Topic. I too have seen an arche near here, but it mysteriously diasappeared, as did the print I photo'd near the water tower(we went back to cast it and it was gone).
I also do some research on ancient stuctures and structures on Mars, and find some of the ARCHES found in TUBELIKE structures on Mars to resemble that great St.Louis Arch. I believe that there may be some connection to the arches and navigation of some type of intelligence that uses the arch as a landmark or identifier of a location(such as to hunt, rest, visit,etc). I love the info on the arches in this thread. This is a great area that is needing more research. I have heard of stone arches,and wonder what they might mean as well. I suspect that any type of Arch is a type of laguage. Just my opinion and theory, I am pretty new at BiG Foot Tracking, (3rd Year).

Is it possible by the size of the arches that they are warnings to other bi-peds as to the height and size of the Bi-ped whos territory is being visited(By us)? Is it possibly a warning to stay away?

[wishful thinker]

Archways near our homes are a pretty good indicator that the bigfoot are getting food from the houses nearby. Look for two little tee pee formations at about fifty foot in front and slightly to the sides one either side of the archway coming from in the woods. These should only stand at about three to four feet tall. This is the bigfoot way of marking this particular house as a food resource and it means to other bigfoot that this is this family groups place to get food from.
You may also look to see if there is any trail that leads under the archway and follower it for about 100 yards back if you can keep to it and you may also find a pyramid pile of rock off to the side of this trail. The top rock will then show you which direction they have come and are going to because the top rock is almost always pointed on each end.
The ground will always be packed down from where they have walked. If you are walking on soft ground then it is not their trail. On any deer trail that they follow their trail will usually, but not always, be off fifty foot to the left hand side of the deer trail.
You may find also out there what looks like someone has dug out a grave site of about three to four feet into the earth and piled the dirt on the left hand side. This is one of their hunting blinds for deer. They will have one of the family lay in this dug out and the others will drive the deer toward it and when the deer goes to jump the pile of dirt the one in the blind reaches out and grabs it by a leg. They don't always use this method to catch deer but it makes it easier on the younger ones to get catch a deer. The adult bigfoot will just chase a deer down and kill it. If you find one of these blinds out there you can pretty well bet that the family group has at least one child under the age of six years old.
Yours,
Jan

you seem to have quite a detailed knowledge of these creatures... aspects of their socialisation and family life, and of their tactics when it comes to gathering food.
althugh i do not doubt the existance of sasquatch animals (certain physical evidence, in my opinion, makes it almost impossible to deny their existance.),but i must ask, with all due respect, how can you know this much about these extremely shy and elusive animals?

[Jan]

Hello Wishful Thinker,
Welcome to the forum and feel free to ask or post at will. Most here know my story, but assuming you don't I will tell you a little about myself and where I gather my knowledge of these Peoples we call the Bigfoot.

From the time I was seven years old I grew up around a family unit of Forest People. I'm 43 years old now. Some of the people that post here are family and close friends of mine. They have witnessed me in action out in the wood doing observations, documenting and taking notes that are current of things and behaviors of the Forest People. Plus a few have seen pocket note books, scraps of paper, books, note books, loose leaf paper and just about anything one can write notes on or in, full of my years of learning things about these Forest people.

I do not take pictures well as I am not camera friendly and most can tell you that which know me here. I don't have good pictures because I am the only person I know of that can aim a simple camera and come up with anything on it expect what I was photographing or filming. Now if you can view a film at a 45 degree angle and make out what you are viewing I may be in business.

I know what I know. because I walk among Giant Hairy People. Yet I do not know it all. They are my teachers. What I know about them is what they have chosen to let me observe, taught me first hand, or told me. They are a people, they have culture, language, art, social structure, legends, writing, and so much more. It's as simple, or complex, as that. (yes)
Yours,
Jan

[wishful thinker]

so from what you have seen, would you conclude that sasquatch can be said to lead an existance parallel to mankind yet be a completely different species?
this conclusion would certainly explain why scientists haven't found bones, or a body with which the existence of sasquatch can be officially zoologically proven; if these animals really do have such a complex social system as to be parallel with mankind, it would be a logical supposition that they have rituals and social laws concerning the treatment of their dead.

[bunnyrabbit]

You answered your question with the title of your post.