If you are a Researcher, Please Read and make comment.

[Jan]

http://theparisnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=ae7647fd81af4b71


I ask, if you are a woman would you enjoy being placed out as bait for one of these creatures, be they human or wild animal?

If you are a man would you want your mother, wife, substantial other, daughter, cousin or any other woman relative used as bait and placed in the way of potential danger?

Male orangutan, chimpanzee, gorilla and even ill mannered men are all known for sometimes becoming overly aggressive toward women.

How would an average woman, or even a woman being protected by ten men, ever ward off a seven to ten foot tall creature/man that weights in at between 700 to 1200 pounds and remain safe and sane?

I feel that Mr. Biscardi has toss all caution and reasoning to the four winds here. Has he no concerns for his fellow human being? Does he not care if he places other's lives in danger? We're not living in Roman times when they place you in the amphitheaters, and yell bring on the beast! This is just as absurd as turning loose the lions and beasts so that they can rip someone to ribbons, just for entertainment they call sport.



Another thing I ask, when did they start making shotguns that shot darts? The last I heard it was rifles that shot darts with tranquilizer. If you are a big game hunter you would know that even bear when shot or darted turn into the shot or dart if not seriously injured or downed. The next thing they will do is to come at the hunter if they are in close proximity to them. Forest Friends have family members that will protect them the same as the chimpanzee and gorilla if the downed individual doesn't get you there family members of the alpha male or female will.



This is totally insane reasoning Mr. Biscardi is using here. He is going to get someone hurt if not killed. This is not the way to go about research.



What does Mr. Biscardi think would have happened if Jane Goodall had gone in with harmful intent to research the chimpanzee? Had Jane Goodall harmed or been invasive in the least with the family group of chimpanzees she has studied and documented for years she would never have gotten as close as she has to befriend them, if she remained in one piece had she harmed one of their young.



Let us that care, hear your thoughts and comments please.



http://www. myspace. com/bgfthuntereast
http://www. myspace. com/letsprotectsasquatch
http://www. myspace. com/PaintedWillow
http://www. myspace. com/indianahominidresearchgrp

Thank you,
Janice Carter

[steve a]

i FIRMLY FEEL THIS IS A HUMAN ERROR IN HUMAN JUDGMENT, THIS IS WHY NORMAL THINKING PEOPLE, THINK RESEARCHERS, ARE UNBELIEVABLE IN THEIR DUTIES AS A LAY PERSON, AND IT TICKS ME OFF, AND MAKES OTHER RESEARCHERS LOOK BAD, ALWAYS REMEMBER, IF YOU CORNER A BIGFOOT, WITH HARMFUL INTENTS, SOME ONE IS GOING TO BE IN HARMS WAY, THEY NEVER TRAVEL ALONE, NEVER EVER, TRY TO SHOOT ONE, YOU COULD BE THE PERSON DYING

[joep]

He He He He, That Biscardi tells me how ignorant he is and he misjudge the Forest Folks. Something like that will never work with the Forest Folks . Man has tried everything and no taker. LOL

[lbattson]

This another attempt to film a documentary to sell to the Discovery Channels, they pay in the neighborhood of 30.000 for these pieces. Just dont watch it because I guarantee it will be a waste of time. This is not research it is making 54 minutes of fill to sell advertising..real dumb..lbattson(-.-)

[AllSmiles]

I volunteer my ex mother in law for his next outing!

[joep]

Only if your ex mother in law is big fat and hairy

[Tom Shirley]

I volunteer my ex mother in law for his next outing!

Now Julie, LOL :shocked:

[Lawrence Leavell]

Tom's goal in this "Bigfoot Dart Game using Damsel in Distress as Dangling Bait before Dumb Ape" is obviously silly, based upon wholly incorrect assumptions, fraught with danger for all involved; the "bait", hunter, Bigfoot subject, and observer/reporters.
By this time, even Tom must know that the assumptions upon which this entire exercise is based are ridiculous. Bigfoot are not "dumb apes", darts require several minutes to take effect even assuming the proper amount of anesthetic is administered. Everyone on the ground during this project is at potentially serious risk to life and limb, Bigfoot included.
Therefore, it seems quite reasonable that Tom embarked upon this expedition knowing full well the likelihood for success was extremely small and probably much less than pure chance.
In light if that reality, it may well be that the real and true goal of the entire exercise is to receive as much media coverage for the affair as possible, and, like it or not, Tom has done this quite well. He has even prompted this discussion on our forum.
Congratulations, Tom! You have succeeded in your efforts. Any press coverage is better than none, even if it makes you look stupid.

[Windspirit]

You know, I read this right after Jan wrote it. My first thought that this guy was dumb as a rock. After reading it a second time it dawned on me this guy has no regards of any ones safety, Human or BF. He just wants to prove something and will go to any extreme to do so . He doesn't seem to care who he hurts in the process. I bet he calls himself a Christian also!!! These are the kinds of " Researchers" that do more harm than good. As far as the woman goes ,I don't believe shes too smart either, if she thought she was spooked with one just running parallel ,what is she going to do when one gets up close and personal? It is very clear to me that these people don't have the slightest idea what they are messing with. I just hope and pray that there BF's are kind of like some of mine around here. That they can honestly use there telepathy and not get involved with this bunch. It just amazes me that some one would be so stupid to do such a thing for any purpose , let alone for money. Windspirithttp://www.bigfootreferenceguide.com/images/smilies/frown.gif
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[pattymac]

I have read this several times. Each time I have lots of thoughts on it not printable on a family forum.
This isn't about being a researcher. This narcissistic behavior will as you say get someone hurt or killed. In the end no one will be able to blame anyone but Mr. Biscardi should this happen.
Should something happen he could be held leagally responsible. I wonder if that has occurred to him yet.

[lbattson]

Please..another bigfoot expedition with a film crew..did we not learn anything from Patterson and Gimlin..less is best. I will not sit thru another tv bigfoot expedition, they are silly and make all bigfoot researchers look like idiots...lbattson

[Regina]

I think that the form this research is taking is short sighted, but then again, it's really being done to entertain an audience and make money, so truth is an option here. I think it's dangerous, ill-conceived and disrespectful all around. I don't even like the name "Bigfoot Hunters" because that implies encouragement for hunting the FF. The more I hear, the more I realize that the FF have been around for millions of years and have done nicely without us, so we should leave them alone! There is a reason why they don't associate with humans. If you think about the long range implications for a show like this, which they didn't, it could be a disaster for the FF communities in the future.

I think that getting near them in an unobtrusive way and letting them get to know you will teach you so much more. Can you imagine if helicopters with night vison and heat sensing equipment came upon families in the forest for hunting purposes?

I think a show like this would promote this and no one is looking at the future.

Regina

[Jan]

To whom it may concern. I wish to post a retraction of the above posted information. It seems the media/informants were misinformed and perhaps, directed, on what we all have read and been lead to believe here. Mr. Biscardi was not responsible for placing this lady in potential danger. There was no situation involvement where anyone with this expedition or otherwise was placed in any danger.

Accordingly, the lady's husband wished to do a reenactment of the time when this lady was out jogging and had had a suspected Sasquatch creature parallel her in the edge of the woods she jogged by on her outings. During the reenactment of this event some of the informants that were present, took it upon them selves to portray this in the negative light brought to the general public.

Mr. Biscardi's involvement with this case was honest and up front. He is not placing anyone in danger, nor is he unethical in and with his methods of research. He is on the up and up and has nothing to hide.

After speaking with Mr. Biscardi at length on the phone today, I find him to be open, honest, on the up and up, responsible, and respectable. Although I have not visited with him in person as of yet, I feel he is on the same endeavor as we are. Mr. Biscardi does not deserve the negative publicity or ridicule as others portray of him and would lead us to believe of him. He is a major asset to the bigfoot research community. I would advise others to take him seriously, not try dragging his reputation through the mud as they have done with so many of us.

Thank you,
Jan

[stillwaters]

I have to agree with Regina. I could have written that post myself, as that is exactly how I feel. They have proven that they don't want us, and they don't need us.

I bet if we could ask them, they would tell us to back off.

People will do, what people do, and our FF friends will keep on avoiding us.......doing what they do best.

IF one came and sit on my porch swing, and ask for coffee, there are very few people I would tell.

I'm sure this is a very unpopular stance, but it's how I've always felt.

Thank you for letting me say it

Stillwaters

[Tom Shirley]

I understand your points very well stillwaters & Regina and respect you both very much the way you put forth your views.

I do not think that the pressure caused on the FFs will stop until they are proven once and for all. Bigfooting is really growing into a major passion of a whole bunch of folks. There are plenty of new Researchers that have never had a sighting but find this very intriguing and want to know the truth or part of it.

Because of more publicity of sightings and now the jerky commercials, Bigfooting has become a craze.

I wish that I could get a reasonable head count on how many Researchers have hit the woods since the release of the Patterson/Gimlin film footage. It is like trying to guess how many jelly beans are in the extra large pickle jar.

I myself think that if folks ban together and add each others evidence and Documentation and bring it forth to the correct panel of Scientists, that we can help the FFs stop being chased around the woods. If they are known to exist and have lived right along side us for centuries without bothering us, there will not be so many folks hitting the woods to prove their existance and they can finally have a rest.

I know my opinion differs from yalls, but we can be respectful toward each other like adults.

Tom S.

[joep]

I will have to say I agree with Stillwater and Regina for that matter. I would not want to be around with likes of Biscardi folks. I am in it to share what we know with folks that does not want nothing to do with the media.
I got my start into researching those FF just after the news of Patterson film comes out back in 1967. It took a while for me to take notice of the signs like teepee, X , topping of some trees and markers. I have come to learn to sense that they were around but hiding from me by guts feeling and feel of being watched.I have two things I never shared with other that what I do know of those FF because their surivival depends on that. Don't ask what those two are. I have several friends who are into it I do not tell them what those two facts are.

Some boards stated they are in it to help the FF. But when I read most and see that it is not so. So sadly I back off on some of my inputs.

But I can tell you that there are far more people who has had encounter with those FF and decidely not to share with others. Those who did report their sightings and encounter with FF is only 10% of the encounters that happen when 90% is not reported.
SO Folks this is my take on what I see and felt So have a nice summer as the days are starting to waned and I can't wait till Fall to comes around to go look for them and find a section they hangs around in.

[Regina]

I guess the lesson for me here is not to jump emotionally when I hear things that are media-oriented. I still hold to the thought that we should do our uptmost to NOT disturb the FF in their environment and to protect them as best we can. I just think that going to the woods and sitting quietly does more good than anything. I think that calls using mimics of audio recordings might be annoying to them. (It may be that the calls are used in times of alarm like sirens and it is the equivalent of having the entire fire department in front of your house with sirens blasting for no reason at all. I would be annoyed by that!) Media sensation around this topic may cause an exodus of too many people in the woods for all the wrong reasons and that's what has me worried. I realized as of late that I have to really be careful on how I go about researching, who I involve, the conclusions I draw and I think all people need to be respectful as well.

[Jan]

Amen to that Regina. I second that motion.
Yours,
Jan

[steve a]

This is My take on this situation, i don't go in to some ones home and start making a fool out of my self, respect is the name of the game, so to speak, its the same when we go out to the forest, in their home, respect their home environments, i dont believe in sound blasting at all, littering, moving things around, leave things as god intended,
if one came to sit beside me, i would offer what i could them him, talk and befriend him, just as would any human that needed me, as for other researchers go, i show the same respect they show me, their are some things i know, that would endanger them,and that will never told, i have found out through the years, to go sit, listen and learn, talk when spoken to, and leave every thing in peace, they shall know you by your works, get pictures leave a gift and leave, simple thing to do, and darn enjoyable,

[BlueMountainTracker]

I wont say whether or not I think this is a good tactic, but it is not something I would try. I personal feel that if ever we were to make contact with one(BF), it will be someone who is not carrying a gun or equipment.
I think that BF is something more than a hairy beast(possible super intellleigence , or even alien) and that it has psychic, or even super technology powers. I am pretty different in what I feel BF is. I am not 100% sure, but feel that it is possible that there would be some kind of aggressive behavior if he was to be shot or something. Mind you, we have never captured one, and it could be one of those predator movie types.He could be a hunter himself.That is something we wont know unless we catch one, one stops in at Fox news for an interview, or one of us actually gets him on film from five feet away. I would think people with scope cameras and not scope rifles will acomplish this task of finding proof, but I seriously would not let any woman be the bait. I seriously think that one(BF) would have to be pre-injured(from a fall, wild beast, other accident) before we actually caught one. I also feel that these are possibly Almasty and therefore very super smart and Human like. Its hard to say one way or another, but taking a woman into the wild as a decoy seems to be dangerous. I hope she is at least a Marine or Navy Seal. Then she might(Maybe) survive the attack , should one occur against her person! I hope that no one gets hurt(Including BF).

My dad used to say: "To each his own whether he shares it or not!"

[Tom Shirley]

BlueMountainTracker/David,

(possible super intellleigence , or even alien)

We here on this Forum do believe the Forest Friends to be a flesh and blood "North American Aboriginal People," nothing close to an alien. We do find them to be very intelligent. But like I stated before, we may be able to point you to another Forum that would better understand these questions/statements.

Thank You for your comments about this threads starter post, but we have learned that the media miss quoted the truth with this article as the media seems to do frequently with this subject.

Tom S.

[lbattson]

Biscardi/georgia bigfoot body hhmmmmmmmmmm that pretty much says it all.........

[Babydoll]

I think you are speaking of a man with a huge ego and no respect for women. Most men I know of decent character protect women from harm and not the other way around. This guy will be figured out by the forest friends before he even steps one foot into the forest and they will not bend to his will.