Winter Gifiting (for bigfoots)

[pattymac]

Whats everyones thoughts on winter time gifting? I have several people telling me blankets. It seems being hair covered it would be more important to gift high carb foods. Not necessarily sweets but foods that are higher in carbs and fats.
Any thoughts?

[bigfootr]

Sorry to be mean in any way but what dose this have to do with bigfoot? :rolleyes:

[Jan]

Patty was sticking to the subject. Gifting is another way of asking what we should leave the bigfoot to eat or keep them warm or help them out. You tell them when you give them something that it is a gift. They tell you when they leave something for you that it is a gift. Gifting. So if you have placed a strike against Pattymac it needs to be removed. This is legitimate questions she ask.
Your,
Jan

[Jan]

and I wished to respond but can not find the thread for those questions. Bigfootr gifting is pertaining to the bigfoot. It is what they call leaving food and other gifts for their use. So please place Pattymac's questions back up and place my reply here with it. Thank you, Jan

In the winter we have found that peanut butter in the larger jar works well for gifting. They enjoy this and you can even separate it out and add some maple syrup to half and stir it up, giving them half at a time. They of course eat more than our serving but in one our size serving that would provide them with a total of 36g sugar, 230mg sodium, 61g carbohydrate,190mg Potassium, 2g fiber, 7g protein, 10% vitamin E, 25 calcium, 4% iron, and 10% folic acid. This is very good for them. Realize they are going to be eating about three times if not more, as much as we would at one serving. We all know that candies are not that good for them so it is better to use natural foods that have sugar than to use candies. These can be apples, bananas, syrups, honey, molasses, oranges, pears which they love here, mangoes, and the like, all have natural sugars which they do need. Also a very good source of protein is to make them a big old pot of soup beans or pinto beans, if you mix these with a large pot of rice and add a little beef liver or heart to them to flavor them they eat them just fine, it also does not hurt to place a little bit of garlic salt in for flavor. Oh and they like raw turnips also which are good for them. You can go to the stores and get chicken gizzards and other meats, I call these cast off meats because I won't eat them, like pork, beef and chicken liver, heart, tongue, and lamb if you can find it. They like these but prefer the lamb over the other meats. You don't have to cook these for them , just leave them out in their containers and tell them they are gifts for them. If you have left overs they will eat almost anything so just make up containers of your left overs for them. You can leave out a blanket if you like but they sometimes will not take it or use it for a long time. They need foods a lot worse than clothing. I don't know why but they like popcorn and it is better for them than the sweets are so pop a freezer bag full for them and leave that out hanging from a tree. They love salmon, but will not touch mackerel, they prefer dry dog food to cat food. I know we would not eat dry dog food but it doesn't seem to harm them, you can get a 50 pound bag of pro pac if you can find the brand and it comes in 32% protein, place out no more than a two of the large folgers cans scoops at a time. Sorry I use those Folger's containers for everything. You can buy them a plastic bucket to place all the food in, and rig aluminum foil over the top to keep out rain and moisture, and tell them this is their food gift for them. If they carry off the bucket tell them to bring it back. One thing to remember that is of importance, never place anything you give or leave for them directly on the ground. This is an insult. You can also offer them a few square bails of hay to make their beds out of or line their sleeping areas.
All right, any other suggestion for gifts for out hairy forest friends?
Yours,
Jan

[bigfootr]

oh I am very sorry I just want the forums clean I will get this fixed. :D

[AllSmiles]

Great information, Jan. Thank you for sharing.

[steve a]

giving gifts is important folks, number one, they dont trust us as humans any way, and we are going in to their home area, leaving messes and interfering in the daily routine, i have left a gift of copper bracelet for a juvinile i was feeding in ind, and it left a gift of bones and blue bird feather for me, do when you go out , please some thing for them in your research area, to say thanks, that you dont mean any harm and talk to them telling them that,they will listen to your tone of voice, and know you mean it, but dont leave the gift low, put it up to their hight, and in the same place every time, they dont like changes in location,

[Tom Shirley]

giving gifts is important folks, number one, they dont trust us as humans any way, and we are going in to their home area, leaving messes and interfering in the daily routine, i have left a gift of copper bracelet for a juvinile i was feeding in ind, and it left a gift of bones and blue bird feather for me, do when you go out , please some thing for them in your research area, to say thanks, that you dont mean any harm and talk to them telling them that,they will listen to your tone of voice, and know you mean it, but dont leave the gift low, put it up to their hight, and in the same place every time, they dont like changes in location,

You are so correct about them not trusting us Steve, their kind witnessed the type of treatment that was done to the Native Americans. In no way did our Fore Fathers show the Native Americans "Good Will". All that the Forest Friends want is "Good Will". If you check out the http://www.bigfootreferenceguide.com/showthread.php?t=34 thread, you will read what "Biggie" was asking of Ron, Al and associates when the Sierra Sounds were recorded. If you listen to the audio clip and read what Biggie is saying at the time, it is so much easier to understand him. Play it over and over again and you will start to understand his tone and speech. Jan has taught me how to listen. Biggie asks "Good WILL you want?" I take that as meaning (no harm, friends).

Lets show the Forest Friends respect and earn their trust, and hold our end of the trust bargain, they will.

Tom S.

[Galileo]

Jan,

Do you think your FF would wear winter hats if I were to knit them to fit their heads? Do you know what colors they might like and head sizes. :)

[Jan]

Jan,

Do you think your FF would wear winter hats if I were to knit them to fit their heads? Do you know what colors they might like and head sizes. :)

Yes. At least Fox and Toby's wife would. I'd say about a 27 inch head in bright pink color, as Chin likes bright pink for some reason, and about 4 inches to the top of her ears should work. Fox would wear about a 29 inch head in a earthy color of brown or green, and six inches to the top of his ears. I'm praying it will not be to tight. He may wear his before Chin being as he is bald on top now. If we could only get them to wear pants we might be able to introduce them to the public. Fat chance of that happening.
Thanks you,
Jan

[steve a]

i think fox would look good, wearing a big staw hat and sun glasses ,incognetito

[Galileo]

yes, with a serape.

[riley_knows]

i have given a bundle of chicken intestines, and halves of young hens. i strung them about 6 feet high between two trees (10 feet apart roughly) in an area where i found arches and a fawn skeleton with no legs. i haven't went back to see if they have taken in though. so i couldn't say if they liked it! :)

[Tom Shirley]

i have given a bundle of chicken intestines, and halves of young hens. i strung them about 6 feet high between two trees (10 feet apart roughly) in an area where i found arches and a fawn skeleton with no legs. i haven't went back to see if they have taken in though. so i couldn't say if they liked it! :)

I know that they prefer the raw liver and heart from larger prey because of the high protein levels much needed for their health. They will eat other portions also.

I was not really sure about the intestines so I asked Jan. Please do not allow yourself to be overcome by this information. Jan said that they will eat the pudding so to speak from the intestines, it is high in nutrients. I am sure that if they did find the halves of young chickens you left for them, that they enjoyed them also.

It does take time though to earn their trust for accepting the gifts that you have left. So do not jump to conclusions and be upset if you do find your gift still there. Putting it up off the ground is a much better way to offer them food gifts, because they do not like to be characterized as a dog and do not like to accept gifts off the ground.

When you go out to offer your gift of food, just speak in English that you are leaving the gift in good will. If they are close they will know that you are there, trust me. Just talk to them in English that you mean them no harm. If they do accept your gift, look around and you may find a gift left by them for you. It may be a stack of bones or a feather, they leave different types of things for your gift if they do leave one.

Tom S.;)

[Jan]

No matter what that gift may be or how disgusting you may think it is take it with you and then dispose of it. I insulted our young female Nicki by not accepting a opossum she once left on my door step for me gutted as a gift. I tossed it in the outside garbage can while she was watching and she never has forgiven me this insult of not accepting her gift back to me. They leave pebble and rocks, feathers usually blue jay, turkey or hawk, odds and ends they may pick up somewhere, even plastic flowers they take from grave yard waste piles when the care taker removes old flowers. No they do not give you money, but they may leave it for you if it is coins if they find it. They eat paper money.
Yours,
Jan

[riley_knows]

No matter what that gift may be or how disgusting you may think it is take it with you and then dispose of it. I insulted our young female Nicki by not accepting a opossum she once left on my door step for me gutted as a gift. I tossed it in the outside garbage can while she was watching and she never has forgiven me this insult of not accepting her gift back to me. They leave pebble and rocks, feathers usually blue jay, turkey or hawk, odds and ends they may pick up somewhere, even plastic flowers they take from grave yard waste piles when the care taker removes old flowers. No they do not give you money, but they may leave it for you if it is coins if they find it. They eat paper money.
Yours,
Jan

where, most likely would we find a gift? would it be near where we left our gifts? i'm planning on making a trip here soon to give some peanut butter, as suggested, and announcing it being "a good will." whats my best bet to keep unwanted critters out of it? stringing it between two trees? i ususlly use hemp twine, because if it is broken by them, it will not litter, but decompose normally.

[Jan]

where, most likely would we find a gift? would it be near where we left our gifts? i'm planning on making a trip here soon to give some peanut butter, as suggested, and announcing it being "a good will." whats my best bet to keep unwanted critters out of it? stringing it between two trees? i ususlly use hemp twine, because if it is broken by them, it will not litter, but decompose normally.

That the peanut butter is a gift for them. Leave the lid on it, if you want you can take a marker and draw arrows on the lid showing them which way it twist to open it. String it up between two trees where a raccoon can not get to it. Raccoon's are crafty animals and can just about get into anything.
Now I'm going to tell you exactly the same thing I have told others for ages to do. I want you to go to your local Wal-Mart or big Kmart and go to the sewing department and ask them if they have any white feathers for craft work. If they do get a small bag. You take one feather and a piece of thin rope or twine or thread with you to the wood where you intend to leave the gift of food.
here is what you are going to do. Find you one stick that has a fork in it that is anywhere up to a foot long. Then get two more sticks and make a little tee pee right under or to the side of your gift on the ground. You lay the two sticks in the fork of the one and shape it into a three legged tee pee. Tie it together at the top with the twine and secure the white feather right in the middle of the top of the tee pee. This is a sign from you of friendship toward them. If they take the feather from the top and the peanut butter they should leave some little something in the middle, on the ground, of your tee pee as a gift for you. if they give you a blue jay feather that is a great honor as this means they accept your friendship totally.
Yours,
Jan

[omasasfoot]

Gifting can be a great way to interact with a few who do(over time)eventually TRUST a human(s). In one of my local areas, where I have walked my dogs/grandkids...I have brought them fruit/veggies from my garden and donations. I hang everything UP, in branches and away from prying eyes, of my kind. In the winter, I use up bread/tortilla's/ and spread peanut butter with honey/molasses/syrup/jam. I don't make it a habit of each week, but about 4 times a month...I can't afford to feed all of them, since I go walking/hiking in several areas around where I live. When I go camping in various areas, I always leave something as a token of friendship...mainly I ask them to watch over me/my dogs/family...from those that might harm us(snakes/cougars/bears/Men)...In the twenty years I have gone out solo or with an occasional friend or with family, so far we have been safe. Now, whether it's because THEY watch over me/others, that's something I can't prove, but I don't put myself in dangerous situations. Feeding them occasionally is ok, especially during the winter which I agree whole heartly. But be prepared for some of them to take you for granted, unless you set down some 'home rules' yourself. To have a family of FF's near and around you can be a awsome and enlighting experience. The negative side is that your family/friends/etc will regard you as a ______ etc.....LOL.
Pat