Hello All,

[Jan]

I don't know how we are suppose to get our attendance up here other than by word of mouth. So I have invited several contacts of mine from other places to join us here in discussion. I had a lady contact me this evening with some information in a neighboring state of local activity there in my MY space account. I invited her to join us here along with one of our foreign member friends. Question to all here. Should we go onto other forum groups and announce ourselves and invite people to join us here, or how should we go about advertising we exit? I could place this on my MY Space page for one thing. I'm not certain I should be asking these questions here in this part of the forum but it seems better to place it here than in any of the other threads.
Thank you,
Jan

[pattymac]

Word of mouth and the myspace thing sounds the best. Some forums are slow to take off.
Maybe visiting a few other forums and pming them or something.

[AllSmiles]

That MySpace lady took your advice and joined!
Thanks for the invite. Trying to get the hang of this. :)

[Tom Shirley]

Thanks for joining us here. I hope you enjoy your Membership.

Tom S :)

[lighthouselady92]

Jan,
If you'd like I can post a link to the forum on my myspace page and on my friends Bigfoot forum site. Let me know, I will not do this without you approval.

Michelle

[Jan]

This would be most appreciated. Here is the way we have been announcing ourselves thus far. You may have a better idea for advertising our existence Lighthouselady.

Pattymac, I did join a few of the other forum groups just to try to get out word that we are here and open for discussion. However, on some of them it is more than the act of the ant trying to move that rubber tree plant, than I can do to get a word or post in edgewise. So far one forum group flatly refused to let me post a link, they just wanted to sling mud in anyone that came their's face, and another let me post it but never placed it up. I've even contacted some people in this field of research I don't exactly share views with and have had better results than with some I called and thought were on friendly bases with.

Fell free to copy and paste the following for getting the word out to others.
Thank you,
Jan

Hello all,

I just wanted to let everyone know of a new website with a Forum that we are starting up. Yes, it still has a few kinks to work out, and information to apply. We just wanted a comfortable website for everyone to be able to ask and answer legitimate questions on without all the unneeded ridicule. We are sure there will be ridicule, but we will be monitoring posts and threads for unnecessary language use and will properly moderate. This is a Forum that minors are more than welcome to read and post. This Forum will be changing as time progresses and Forums may be added for paid subscribers only. As we will try to receive donations to help support the website with the costs of having it before we require paid subscriptions for certain forums. As we wish to help the general public understand these peoples.

Jan has always tried to help others understand the Forest Friends on other public Forums through the goodness of her heart. But Moderation was not appropriately followed and implemented for our younger generation of researchers to read certain posts. We are hoping for a comfortable and friendly Forum of like-minded Members and Researchers.

Here is the link: http://www.bigfootreferenceguide.com/

Tom S.

[Jan]

Please excuse the mis-spelled words in that former post of mine. I have not had my fill of morning coffee. Could someone please pass the toothpicks? This blindness in one eye and my not being able to see out of the other is going to be the death of me this morning. Now let me turn this into a better discussion here.

Has anyone ever considered how a Bigfoot would react when it first gets up in the morning or from a good rest? Do you suppose they get up with one eye half opened and stumble to the local drinking stream to get their fill of water then to the bathroom area for a call of mother nature? Or would they react like one of our domestic pet dogs and be on the alert immediately? Would they be a regular bear in the morning, or a pet kitty cat? Oh my, I don't think I would want to be Mrs. Foot and wake to that grouchy old hubby in want of his breakfast.

Come on gang lets hear you comments and input on these questions.
Yours,
Jan, me or whomever I may be this morning.
Welcome to Earth third rock from the Sun. To err is Human thank goodness.

[joep]

Hi Folks,
I am Rodney and am deaf. Been into Bigfooting since 1960's.

Jan hope you got shoes on in this cold weather.

[Tom Shirley]

Welcome to the Group hutoikopun, lojomop, ADALINN, and SkunkApe. We are glad that you have joined us here.

Hopefully we can get this forum up and rolling for our Members to enjoy their time here. We are working on adding information and such.

Happy Holidays to everyone.

Tom S.

[Jan]

Hi Folks,
I am Rodney and am deaf. Been into Bigfooting since 1960's.

Jan hope you got shoes on in this cold weather.

My friend you know me to well. Nope I don't have any shoes on. Running around barefoot, country hill billy, and proud of it, at least until I catch my death of cold. You know I should have been born a bigfoot. My feet are about callous enough to not feel much when I run about barefoot on rocks and things.

I wonder if bigfoot ever get snake bite? Maybe they are like me and run over the top of the others to get away from a snake? No. I know better than that. But I do wonder if they ever get snake bite or not. I've never thought of that before.
Yours,
Jan

[joep]

If people get snakes bite then bigfoot does get snake bite.

[Jan]

If people get snakes bite then bigfoot does get snake bite.

Wonder what they would do for a snake bite? We have an antidote the doctors use once we use our kits (when we remember to get them and carry them) to fight the venom. Wonder what they would use as an antidote? What plants out there in the forest would work for this? Does anyone know?
Thanks,
Jan

[Galileo]

Hello everyone. I am Lynda Wilkinson.
I am a wife, mother, and a college student. Jan invited me to join the group, so here I am. I have never seen a bigfoot, but I would like to see one, I think. I have lots of questions.

Well, I am looking forward to talking to all of you.

Hey, Jan I chose my name on here in honor of you. Hoping you get vindicated quicker than it took Galileo. ;)

[Tom Shirley]

Hello everyone. I am Lynda Wilkinson.
I am a wife, mother, and a college student. Jan invited me to join the group, so here I am. I have never seen a bigfoot, but I would like to see one, I think. I have lots of questions.

Well, I am looking forward to talking to all of you.

Hey, Jan I chose my name on here in honor of you. Hoping you get vindicated quicker than it took Galileo. ;)

Hello Lynda,

We look forward to your questions and thank you for joining us here.

It is such an overwhelming feeling that comes over you when you do get the privilege to see a Forest Friend. Your mind takes a little while to really comprehend what you had just witnessed. The result is a time in your life that you will never forget. To see one again and understand how to listen and understand what they are saying tops your just seeing one.

Tom S.

[Galileo]

Hi Tom,

Are you Jan's boyfriend?
Did you have had a conversation with Fox or just hear him talking in the woods? How close were you to him? What did he have to say? Could you smell him? How do you know when they are around?

Is this too many questions?

[Tom Shirley]

Hi Tom,

[QUOTE]Are you Jan's boyfriend?

Yes

Did you have had a conversation with Fox or just hear him talking in the woods?

I have heard Fox and others before speaking from the basement and the trees. Jan has used the Sierra Sound audio Disks to teach me how to understand what they are saying. I still have trouble understanding, especially when they get to talking fast. If they talk slow it is much easier to understand them. Just ask them to "talk slow", they understand English just fine.


How close were you to him?

Fox has never really felt that comfortable to come out to full view for me, I wish that he did. But he has kept in the shadows of night where I could get small glimpses of him and the others. They are a bashful sort, I think because they understand how they frighten most of us when we do see them. They mean us no harm though.

I was a city boy most of my life and never really had an encounter before I met Jan. I had heard of Bigfoot on TV like anyone else growing up, but it did not take long for me to know they exist after meeting Jan.

When I first met Jan she asked if I believed in Bigfoot, I told her that I had never seen one but they may exist, I told her that I had an open mind to anything. I did not know whom she was when I first met her. We met through Pal Talk.

I have helped find much evidence and I have had other sightings with other Forest Friends.


What did he have to say?

He knocked on the floor from the basement and said "Quiet up there" Now this did come from the basement and I was not use to understanding there speech yet, so Jan explained to me what he had said. But I did hear the voice come from the basement after the knocks.

Could you smell him?

Fox never really skunked around the old farm, I guess he did not feel threatened and the Family are the type to keep clean.

How do you know when they are around?

You could hear them moving around and they would make different sounds to announce themselves, be it a whistle, a knock, a hand slap, or a imitation of some other animal. One night when I was sitting out by the camp fire at the old Carter farm house by myself, across the road came a sound of a owl at the base of a tree, then a dog was climbing the tree, then the sound was a deer up the tree. I am an experienced deer hunter so I know what deer sound like. Deer do not climb trees!!

Is this too many questions?

No, this is not to many questions.

Thank You for your questions though. I hope that you do like my answers.

Tom S.

[AllSmiles]

I know I enjoyed those answers...thanks Tom!

[Jan]

Hello everyone. I am Lynda Wilkinson.
I am a wife, mother, and a college student. Jan invited me to join the group, so here I am. I have never seen a bigfoot, but I would like to see one, I think. I have lots of questions.

Well, I am looking forward to talking to all of you.

Hey, Jan I chose my name on here in honor of you. Hoping you get vindicated quicker than it took Galileo. ;)

Nice choice Lynda,
I also hope I get vindicated faster than Galileo. I think we all know the story of Galileo.
I think maybe you should post some more about your experience after Tom and you chatted. You may not have seen a bigfoot but I think you smelled and heard one and seen it's eye shine. That's close enough for us. But I don't want to tell your story or experiences for you. I want you to feel free to share it here with others. No one here will ridicule you for your knowledge or the lack thereof.
Yours,
Jan

To everyone here and visiting,
This is a site for sharing, not for putting others down just because their opinion or experience is different from our/your own. If anyone is caught being disrespectful they will get a warning, if they continue we'll show them/you to the door. We are not going to allow the nonsense here that tends to happen on other forums. We are no kill, however if you are pro kill we still invite you to join in and share your views, observations and experiences with us. This forum is for educating the public, and learning from one another through experiences and research about the bigfoot. No one is an expert in this field, and until we have exhausted our studies and have experts accredited herein, for someone to claim otherwise is a gross overstatement. Yes we have our Scientist that are experts in certain fields of study, that do study just as we do about the bigfoot, but as of yet none of them are experts on the subject alone and all together.

Hominology 101.

Examples: We have Jeff Meldrum that is an expert in his field of study, M. K. Davis in his also, Igor Burtsev in his field, Dmitri Bayanov in his field, Jimmy Chilcutt in his field, Scott Marlow in his field, Loren Coleman in his field, W. Henner Farenbach in his field, and a lot of others that would take a page to even begin listing. (I have great respect for all the above named, and many others that dedicate their spare time to this field of study. I am not trying to slight anyone out there by not mentioning their name.) All are experts in their own chosen fields of study. Yet only by joining forces with one another, and each bringing their piece of the puzzle to the table to be included, do we even begin imagining what our first glimpse of picture might become when it shapes up to be the finished portrait.

Now should I criticize them because they say something I don't exactly agree with? I should not. Keep in mind, I am not studied in their fields of expertise here, so what I should be doing instead of running my mouth or falling asleep in class, is to sit up and pay them uttermost attention. I would be learning something I did not know about. However, my being the student, and should I have something of importance to offer or ask them to expanded their study into further, I would approach them with my concerns and theory, whatever that may be, and discuss this with them in a most civilized way for their consideration.

That is the way it works, here people. Do not assume you know it all because you certainly don't. Until you walk that mile in the other persons shoes assume nothing, and give credit and respect to that person that they well deserve. Some here know that I and a few of the people I mentioned above do not agree on everything the other says.

Not picking on Loren or Jerry here, but his Loren's brother Jerry has done his best to debunk me and show me as a hoaxer regarding Bigfoot and my knowledge thereof. Do I carry a grudge toward Jerry, do I disrespect him for his public opinion of me and my claims, or do I respect him for his opinion of me? I choose to RESPECT Jerry for his opinion because to the best of him ability he investigated my case. No he did not go to the source of the matter, that being me. I would have chosen to go to the choice of the matter, however Jerry for whatever reasons chose not to.

Now do I act the idiot and call him every name in the book on public forums, saying he is a liar and whatever else I can think to say negative about or of him? NO. Do I debate his claims and opinion of me and my situation of my case about Bigfoot? Yes. The civilized way for me to handle this would be for me to invite Jerry to come and research first hand with me. Let me either prove him claims and opinion of me correct or half way correct or all together wrong.

We as the individuals we are, are entitled to our own opinions of any given issue or subject. Just because one persons opinion differs from another's doesn't make one right and the other wrong. I'm telling you we are all going to have to start pulling our own weight here and joining forces to get to the bottom or top of this mystery, BIGFOOT/SASQUATCH/ALMASTY/SNOWMAN/YETI.

Thank you for your kind attention to my post here.
Yours,
Jan

[Galileo]

Jan, here is my story.

When I was growing up my family lived outside of Kennard, Indiana. It was in the summer and it was hot. We did not have air conditioning except in my parents bedroom, so all the windows were open. Our house was a split level house, with the kitchen on the top level. There was a door leading outside in the kitchen. The door opened to a small deck with stairs going down. Mom and I were in the kitchen playing cards at the table. We were waiting for dad to come home from work. He worked 2nd shift and got home between 11:30 and midnight. All of a sudden we could hear our cat screaming like something was killing it. So we turned on the light by the door and went out onto the deck. We could not see what was going on. We did figure out the sound was coming from the area of the blue spruce tree near the front of the lawn. Mom decided to go down to the garage and get the spotlight out of dad's bass boat. She quickly returned and we shined the spotlight over at the tree. We could see two sets of eyes shinning back at us. One set was clearly the eyes of the cat. The other set was a lot larger and red. We were looking at this from above so I don't really know how high the eyes were, but they were somewhat about midway on the tree. The tree was not really big maybe 18 to 20 feet tall at best. Mom decided that we were going to go an see what had the cat. So we went down stairs and out the front door and got into the station wagon. Mom backed out of the driveway and turned and drove over to the tree. When we got over to the tree, the thing with the red eyes was gone but it left the cat. The cat was a mess. It was dead. It looked like it had been broken. The skin was completely intact. It was not bloody, ripped or cut in any way. It was however completely covered in saliva. The spot in which it was laying was all mashed down and wet with urine. It smelled really bad too. It was horrible mixture of the urine and something I had never smelled before. It made our eyes burn and water. We were choking as well. Within a week or so, late one night I woke up and smelled the smell again. It was coming from below my window. So I went down stairs to the basement. I opened the curtains. I could not see anything because what ever it was was pressed against the window, all I could see was hair/fur. It was dark in color and dark in the house and outside. The window was a normal size house window, but it was level with the ground and between some bushes. I decided I did not really want to know what was on the other side of the window so I went back up stairs and cowered in my room until morning. I told my mom what had happened. Within a week or two we traveled up to Michigan to visit my grandmother. We visited a zoo while we were there and mom decided at that point it was a bear that had been at the house. I figured she was right. Well until I really thought about it within the last couple of months. I have never heard of a bear in Henry County Indiana. Nor Have I heard of a bear doing that to a cat. I think a bear would have ripped the cat to shreds.

That is how my cat died.

Lynda

[Tom Shirley]

Jan, here is my story.

When I was growing up my family lived outside of Kennard, Indiana. It was in the summer and it was hot. We did not have air conditioning except in my parents bedroom, so all the windows were open. Our house was a split level house, with the kitchen on the top level. There was a door leading outside in the kitchen. The door opened to a small deck with stairs going down. Mom and I were in the kitchen playing cards at the table. We were waiting for dad to come home from work. He worked 2nd shift and got home between 11:30 and midnight. All of a sudden we could hear our cat screaming like something was killing it. So we turned on the light by the door and went out onto the deck. We could not see what was going on. We did figure out the sound was coming from the area of the blue spruce tree near the front of the lawn. Mom decided to go down to the garage and get the spotlight out of dad's bass boat. She quickly returned and we shined the spotlight over at the tree. We could see two sets of eyes shinning back at us. One set was clearly the eyes of the cat. The other set was a lot larger and red. We were looking at this from above so I don't really know how high the eyes were, but they were somewhat about midway on the tree. The tree was not really big maybe 18 to 20 feet tall at best. Mom decided that we were going to go an see what had the cat. So we went down stairs and out the front door and got into the station wagon. Mom backed out of the driveway and turned and drove over to the tree. When we got over to the tree, the thing with the red eyes was gone but it left the cat. The cat was a mess. It was dead. It looked like it had been broken. The skin was completely intact. It was not bloody, ripped or cut in any way. It was however completely covered in saliva. The spot in which it was laying was all mashed down and wet with urine. It smelled really bad too. It was horrible mixture of the urine and something I had never smelled before. It made our eyes burn and water. We were choking as well. Within a week or so, late one night I woke up and smelled the smell again. It was coming from below my window. So I went down stairs to the basement. I opened the curtains. I could not see anything because what ever it was was pressed against the window, all I could see was hair/fur. It was dark in color and dark in the house and outside. The window was a normal size house window, but it was level with the ground and between some bushes. I decided I did not really want to know what was on the other side of the window so I went back up stairs and cowered in my room until morning. I told my mom what had happened. Within a week or two we traveled up to Michigan to visit my grandmother. We visited a zoo while we were there and mom decided at that point it was a bear that had been at the house. I figured she was right. Well until I really thought about it within the last couple of months. I have never heard of a bear in Henry County Indiana. Nor Have I heard of a bear doing that to a cat. I think a bear would have ripped the cat to shreds.

That is how my cat died.

Lynda

:) We do appreciate sharing of experiences most highly. That is a great way to help each other learn and be prepared for experiences. Most people like to try and convince themselves that their experience is easily identified by something logical, like a bear. It is hard for most to even perceive it to really be what they had just witnessed or experienced. It goes beyond what we have learned growing up.

Tom S.

[Jan]

Sometimes it only takes a word from someone that ask to jog a memory. Then it all comes rushing back. The person that was told, or though whatever that thing was, I saw, heard, saw eye's shine, or smelled, doesn't so easily get tucked away as being a bear, wolf, or some other large predator any longer. I once had a lady come to me that did not know hwy she had such an interest in bigfoot. She had never seen one that she could remember. Come to find out after I had talk to her for several months I said just that little something and, WHAM, on went the lights and she remembered as a small child she had seen one and heard it call her name also.
Yours,
Jan

[bigfootbait]

JAN: regarding your question about how to improve membership:
I posted links to the forum and also to the BRG home page on my website's "Bigfoot Research Links" page.
Hope that is ok.... here is the URL:
http://lawnflowersjerkyandbigfoots.com/bigfootresearchlinks.aspx
Happy recruiting!
bigootbait

[Regina]

I don't know how we are suppose to get our attendance up here other than by word of mouth. So I have invited several contacts of mine from other places to join us here in discussion. I had a lady contact me this evening with some information in a neighboring state of local activity there in my MY space account. I invited her to join us here along with one of our foreign member friends. Question to all here. Should we go onto other forum groups and announce ourselves and invite people to join us here, or how should we go about advertising we exit? I could place this on my MY Space page for one thing. I'm not certain I should be asking these questions here in this part of the forum but it seems better to place it here than in any of the other threads.
Thank you,
Jan

Hello Everybody!

My name is Regina and I apologize in advance if I am doing this wrong. I am new and I am learning how this forum works. I never join forums, that is until now. About twenty years ago I had an experience that I convinced myself didn't happen or I talked myself out of it in a way, I guess. Now, with the new pictures of the young FF from PA who accidentally wandered in front of that motion camera, I now understand what I saw twenty years ago. And now I need to talk to someone who can relate to the experience. At the time, I thought it was the weirdest looking dog I had ever seen. I am from NJ and the idea of Bigfoot was something I always believed in (because of something inside me, I just believed), but they were something unique to the Northwest corner of our country! NOT NJ! So there is NO way I would have ever even entertained the thought.....until....I saw those pictures. What I saw was on all fours and ran in front of my car from the right to left as I turned onto the road. I could not see the head because it was running diagonally and it was night, so I saw it in the light of my headlights, but what????? It looked like a tall dog on four legs, completely dark and hairy with no tail. The shoulders were higher than the hind legs and it was fast!!! I explained it to myself that I had seen a dog and I forgot about it. Until I saw the pictures. Now I am telling my story on a forum. What I saw looked like the youngster in the picture. Even if I had thought of a BF, my concept of them is of tall, standing beings, not on all fours, so I really had no way to place this experience. As it has turned out, a friend of mine has sent me sites of other witnesses who have heard or seen Bigfoot in my area and now it is all starting to make sense. This is the first time I have ever told this story to anyone online. I am trying to understand it all, while at the same time I realize how special and personal that sighting is to me. I get raised eyebrows from people I have shared this with, but it is my hope that this is a sensitive place to share this story. I thank you all for reading and I have enjoyed all of your posts and the kind community this seems to be. Thank you so much for being here! I look forward to posting and communicating with everyone - Regina

[steve a]

this is a great story, thank so much, you are in the right forums to tell your story, we all must remember, it is bigfoot who choose to be seen with , not us humans, unless it was a accident, thanks so much , steve

[Tom Shirley]

Thank you so much for seeing us as the community you wanted to share your sighting with first. There are quite a few of us here that have had our own personal sightings and are very aware of the raised eye brows. But we stand together strong on what we know what we have experienced. We are determined to get the Forest Friends recognized and protected. If we do this together and each have our own piece of evidence to add to the pot, we will accomplish our task.

We all will be more than willing to answer any questions that you have.

Tom S.

[Jan]

Feel free to ask any questions you may have and share any information you feel comfortable with sharing. We respect others and their views and opinions.

Let me first say that the FF can and do run really fast when in the quadrupedal position, ie. on all fours. Even Tom S. here thought he was seeing a big unusual looking black dog running across our field one morning when Squeaky decided to go running on all fours. Took me a little to convince him that it was Squeaky and not a big shaggy black sheepdog. Plus there were no sheep dogs in our area at the time this happened. Now after seeing them do this, and also from viewing them in others videos Tom now recognizes this as one of their forms of locomotion they use.

Another friend of mine when they first reported to me back in 2002 told they had seen what they thought was a unusual looking black chow in the edge of their yard one morning in the fog, that was not a dog at all when they went to investigate. That odd chow left behind very human looking foot prints. This person could not make out the head either but could see what they called a mane or what is known as a ruff on a dog. What this was, was the hair of the head overlaying the hair on the back and sides of the Forest Friends neck and shoulders.

Again in 2003 I had a lady write me saying she was witnessing FF activity, however at first she had mis-identified the FF's as unusual looking dogs because of their moving on all fours when she first seen them.

So you see Regina you are not the only one to try identifying them with an animal we are more familiar with.

The denial is a natural reaction for most people when first witnessing a FF. Then comes the maybe stage of things, then partial acceptance. Some people, and I am even talking of big men that are frightened by nothing in the woods or otherwise, have broke down in tears when they tell of seeing a FF, it has shaken them so. Then you start questioning yourself, looking for answers from any source you can find. You fear saying anything to anyone for the obvious reasons. The need to relate and have someone understand you and believe you is also very natural and needed. It helps to talk with others that have witnessed the same things, that can honestly say to you, you are not crazy, hallucinating, making up tall tells, or playing jokes.

I honestly feel what is needed in this field is good professional counselor's that can identify with the witness and help them to come to a better understanding of what they have seen. Help them over come their initial shock, denial and other emotional feelings that are experienced. However, I know of not one professional that is qualified for this type of work with witnesses or researchers.

Therefore, we gather together on forums and websites where we hope to find others that have witnessed the same things we have. We make up our own support groups. Until we have the professionals needed, this is all we can do. I feel it helps to have a safe harbor in a world gone dark and stormy at sea. You are welcome to join us here.

Thank you for telling us all of your sighting Regina. We hope you find us of help and supportive. Know that you are among friends here.

Yours,
Jan

[Billy Willard]

Regina, thank you so much for sharing that experience. I had an opportunity to join with a group in NJ about a year ago on an expedition in the Pine Barrens. That place is simply amazing! It's great to have you here and you don't have to worry about sharing your opinions. Thanks so much! :)

[Regina]

Hi Billy! Thank you for your reply. I feel very welcomed here! I think I read about your investigation in the Pinelands. I go kayaking in that very same region! I was amazed by everything that I read. I still can't believe it! FF's in the Pine Barrons, but that sure does explain some weird noises I heard outside a friend's cabin. Neither of us knew that sound and we just looked at each other. (I thought it was a night bird or strange insect, but after hearing the recordings....) One time we were traveling on an old, dirt stage road, which run throughout the Pinelands. We were headed to Oswego Lake when we saw a herd of deer running for their lives across the road. We weren't close to them, but that's something that you see a lot, but this part isn't. I saw something on all fours that had a bright red/orange coat that reflected sunlight and it was bigger than the deer that it seemed to be chasing. It was the last "deer" to cross the road. In NJ the deer are light brown and then a shade darker in the winter. I never saw an orange deer before. We had my Beagle in the truck with us and the dog went nuts as soon as we got to the place where the deer had crossed, but that's normal for her. Again, I just forgot incident, but now I am wondering.......Thanks so much for reading this and letting me say what I saw without fear! It is so appreciated!
Regina

[Regina]

[QUOTE=Jan;1933]Feel free to ask any questions you may have and share any information you feel comfortable with sharing. We respect others and their views and opinions.

Hello Jan!

Thank you so much for taking the time to tell me the experiences of others. I am not crazy! Other people saw this...I can't believe it. And now that it is sinking in...I still can't believe it! It's the most amazing thing!!!!!! I just can't believe it, but I saw it! I saw it!!! I can't get over it. And I can finally say it! I have been holding all of this inside ever since I saw those pictures. I am in awe! I am truly in awe...I don't know how else to say it. The ironic thing is, I believed it before I ever knew I saw anything. I always believed that FF had to be there. Too many people are seeing them! I am sure that there are plenty of hoaxers and I wish they would stop because they make it hard to find the scientific things we need to learn and they interfere with that process. And I have been ridiculed for my belief and teased, but that's ok...I am alright with everybody having their own understanding of things, but what a gift this is! I was told that FF's are only on 2 feet, so it couldn't have been an FF. When you told me that others have seen this too...again.....if I didn't see it myself. Thank you so much and I don't even know if I am making any sense. Just know that I am grateful to be here and I needed to tell someone this. It's almost a miracle that you are all here. Thank you for making me feel so welcome and yes, I have TONS of questions and I don't even know where to start! From what I am reading FF's seem to be the most beautiful beings! Jan, forgive me if I am rambling for awhile! Anything that you can share at this point I would be very appreciative of and I thank you! :)
Regina

[Regina]

Thank you so much for seeing us as the community you wanted to share your sighting with first. There are quite a few of us here that have had our own personal sightings and are very aware of the raised eye brows. But we stand together strong on what we know what we have experienced. We are determined to get the Forest Friends recognized and protected. If we do this together and each have our own piece of evidence to add to the pot, we will accomplish our task.

We all will be more than willing to answer any questions that you have.

Tom S.

Tom, I sincerely appreciate all the welcomes I received and even more so, the acceptance! I feel like you are all so lucky to have had such wonderful experiences and friendships and I know I am going to learn and appreciate more and more. Just in the two nights that I have been reading the posts I have learned so much and I feel a great respect for the FF's and the people who teach us about them, care for them and protect them. I am awestruck and amazed at all of this. I am still trying to take it all in. You have no idea, but I'm really glad that you're all here! I can't imagine trying to hold this to myself. Thank you again!!! I hope I posted this right so you get it! : )
Regina

[Regina]

this is a great story, thank so much, you are in the right forums to tell your story, we all must remember, it is bigfoot who choose to be seen with , not us humans, unless it was a accident, thanks so much , steve

Steve, all I can say is Wow! When you put it the way you did about FF's choosing us, well...Wow! I feel a responsibility now to learn as much as I can to help. I am still kind of processing all of this, but I do want to thank you and everyone for making me feel entirely welcome....and just plain "OK". I feel like I have been given a special, undeserved gift and I really need to learn all I can and do what I can. If I had only understood what I saw then...all the time that was wasted just because I didn't know...I believed.....but really didn't know. Now I KNOW what I saw! Just so tremendous! Thank you for your kind post and allowing me to express amazement. This is something that I don't think anyone could ever get "used to"...Just WOW!

Regina

[steve a]

Regina , this is wonderful, thank you for being here, and sharing your open feelings, my daughters name is Regina, and she had a experience that made a believer out of her, i hope to help in answering any questions, i have had 9 sightings, and my wife has had two

[joep]

Regina, Welcome to this forum and your sighting is also interesting too about those FF on 4. And you took the time to read all other boards to compare with what you saw. And you come here to tell what you saw. We here are in same sitution you are wanting to know more about the FF.

It sure gets into your blood and becomes an obession wanting to get to know more about those FF.

I had two good sightings and many but the FF plays hidy seeky with me over the years.

Again, I welcome you to this forum. We are here to help those that has the same experience no matter where.

So Happy Bigfooting.

[Jan]

Feel free to express you feelings here and ask away. None of us have all the answers to our self, but with combined effort, understanding and knowledge there is almost always someone that can answer and help another out.

I have witnessed them going about on all fours also. They hunt this way a lot. They will chase down prey like deer and other large game animals by dropping to all fours and reaching out to grab the prey by the back leg usually. On all fours they seem to be able to maintain a faster sped for a longer time than when they are running upright. They never lock the knees when they are moving with in the up right posture.

They will also drop to all fours if they are trying to be elusive and keep you from noticing them. They will even do this to come closer to you un-noticed. They also will do a belly crawl flat of the ground if sneaking up on something of being submissive. And they can crawl faster than GI's can in this position. Plus their behinds do not come up off the ground.

Now when they run on all fours their bottoms don't bob up and down they keep their hind ends lower then their shoulders and head. They will move almost like a gorilla but not exactly the same. What I mean here is that they
keep their hand to the inside of their legs and feet when running in the all four position. They use the same side with the stride also not the opposite foot to hand movement. A bit hard to explain without demonstration.

Yours,
Jan

[Tom Shirley]

Tom, I sincerely appreciate all the welcomes I received and even more so, the acceptance! I feel like you are all so lucky to have had such wonderful experiences and friendships and I know I am going to learn and appreciate more and more. Just in the two nights that I have been reading the posts I have learned so much and I feel a great respect for the FF's and the people who teach us about them, care for them and protect them. I am awestruck and amazed at all of this. I am still trying to take it all in. You have no idea, but I'm really glad that you're all here! I can't imagine trying to hold this to myself. Thank you again!!! I hope I posted this right so you get it! : )
Regina

Regina, you are doing great with your posts, and you are really learning your way around the Forum quickly. (yes) If you have any problems with anything just ask and I will be happy to help. You can look through the "Site Announcements" Forum to learn of new addons or or other info. You can also click on the Faq (http://www.bigfootreferenceguide.com/faq.php) up on the header links to get a few ideas there.

I feel privileged to be part of your excitement of finally figuring out what you have witnessed in the past. I understand your excitement very well as I have been there myself. Thank You very much for sharing with us here. :D

Tom S.

[Jan]

for you to post some of your experiences herein. Tell what you have witnessed and heard and all. You just always back me up and never tell what you know. So tell your sightings and experiences. Just don't tell them I drive like a mad woman and slam on the breaks. LOL
Yours,
Jan

[Regina]

Now when they run on all fours their bottoms don't bob up and down they keep their hind ends lower then their shoulders and head. They will move almost like a gorilla but not exactly the same. What I mean here is that they
keep their hand to the inside of their legs and feet when running in the all four position. They use the same side with the stride also not the opposite foot to hand movement. A bit hard to explain without demonstration.

Yours,
Jan

Jan..I can't believe that you wrote this! I was just trying (poorly) to describe this to my friend...a friend who is doing her best to be patient with me I think! I tried to explain that the "dog" I saw running 20 years ago and if memory serves correctly, ran strangely. I said that the dog did not run like a dog. It didn't have a dog's gait. I remember trying to explain it to my then husband (and now ex-husband) and I had trouble trying to explain it. But I know exactly what you meant here and I appreciate that you mentioned it because I had a devil of a time trying to describe it. The "dog" went across in a flash and I wasn't sure what kind of "dog" it was BUT I remember chuckling to myself because the dog's "paws" had a different motion. Between the tallness and the "paws" it sort of reminded me of camels because the camels feet seem to schlep when they walk....I am grasping here. What I saw with the paws was like a "slappy", flexible motion when they hit the ground and it was mostly the front paws, which I now know were hands. I doubt this makes sense, but I am trying. This "dog" must have only touched the ground with it's front and back "paws" maybe twice before it got across the street and disappeared into the darkness. It flew! And now I know just how special those hands and feet really are!

[Regina]

[ i have had 9 sightings, and my wife has had two[/QUOTE]



Holy Cow!!! What a gift! But I have to say that I think I would lie awake at night staring at the ceiling! Oh my goodness! I am glad for both your sightings! What a truly amazing gift! -Regina :)

[Jan]

I do not wish to lead the witness here in any way. So if you remember the unusual dog slapping the ground with it's front paws maybe that is what it did.
What I have seen and witnessed is they will hold their hands in a fist like position and walk on the hand knuckles and the flats of their third digits of their fingers next to the hand. The also will run on their toes in this all four position. When they make this fist to run on all fours with it amazes me they do not break their thumbs because they tuck their thumbs inside the index finger on each hand inside their fist, but only the first digits of the thumb and thumb nail. This is not saying they do not run open handed. It is saying that I have never seen them on all fours running open handed. However they will move about leisurely on all fours with the hand palm down on the ground. Sometimes when they move on their all fours we only get knuckle prints and partial foot prints of the front of the foot.
Yours,
Jan

[River]

But I do wonder if they ever get snake bite or not.

^^^ Said by Jan.



I've often wondered this too, and poisonous spiders (brown recluse etc) and how much effect a bite would have on them opposed to us.

[William Walter Mayes]

Hello to everybody.I saw an article about a man who was bitten by a snake and was rescued by a sasquatch.It must have been at Bigfoot Encounters.
As robust and big as an adult Hairy Giant is, snake bites are probably not usually fatal, but he might lose a toe or two. I am sure they injure their feet ocasionally. No doubt a little "bigfoot" could get frostbite and lose a toe. This could explain why some tracks show less thsn the usual number of toes.
William Mayes

[Severn]

It is nice to join a forum where everyone is polite. I hope to live up to the standards.

I am interested in Sasquatch genetics and I hope to learn from Jan and Mary Green about Sas health issues. I believe that the ancestors of Sas were either humans like us, or, were Neanderthals. Further, that in a single generation, a DNA copy error occurred to create a diseased state Sasquatch. Similar drastic changes have been documented in the medical literature. For that reason, I am interested in Sas health issues as a way of confirming this theory.

It doesn't surprise me that there is a lot of variability in Sasquatch appearance. Details of the genes imposed upon a fundamentally diseased state (if that is what a Sas is) would be expected to change physical and mental state.

I hope that this viewpoint does not offend anyone else's views. I'm left-handed and we lefties just can help but see the world bit differently. I'm willing to learn what you know. I think we should treat Sas charitably befitting such a state.

I'm 62 and don't have a lot of stamina for field studies, but I would like to make at least one trip to the Kentucky- Tennessee area in an easy terrain area. I'm in Maryland, my user name is named after the Annapolis-Severn River-Odenton tribe of Sasquatch.

[Tom Shirley]

Hello Severn, its great to meet you & Thank You for joining with us. I am sure that all the Members are pleased to hear that we are a polite Forum. We tend to get along pretty well here.

There is so much that we all need to learn about these hidden peoples & everyone has evidence/predictions to share. We CAN all get along respectably in sharing these ideas as long as we all feel it as helping another. Our world needs to start getting along together & that starts with common respect. So much of Civilization has forgotten what common respect is.

Well I'm babbling, I'll quit. ;)

Tom S.

[ravellette]

[QUOTE=Jan;1933]Feel free to ask any questions you may have and share any information you feel comfortable with sharing. We respect others and their views and opinions.

Hello Jan!

Thank you so much for taking the time to tell me the experiences of others. I am not crazy! Other people saw this...I can't believe it. And now that it is sinking in...I still can't believe it! It's the most amazing thing!!!!!! I just can't believe it, but I saw it! I saw it!!! I can't get over it. And I can finally say it! I have been holding all of this inside ever since I saw those pictures. I am in awe! I am truly in awe...I don't know how else to say it. The ironic thing is, I believed it before I ever knew I saw anything. I always believed that FF had to be there. Too many people are seeing them! I am sure that there are plenty of hoaxers and I wish they would stop because they make it hard to find the scientific things we need to learn and they interfere with that process. And I have been ridiculed for my belief and teased, but that's ok...I am alright with everybody having their own understanding of things, but what a gift this is! I was told that FF's are only on 2 feet, so it couldn't have been an FF. When you told me that others have seen this too...again.....if I didn't see it myself. Thank you so much and I don't even know if I am making any sense. Just know that I am grateful to be here and I needed to tell someone this. It's almost a miracle that you are all here. Thank you for making me feel so welcome and yes, I have TONS of questions and I don't even know where to start! From what I am reading FF's seem to be the most beautiful beings! Jan, forgive me if I am rambling for awhile! Anything that you can share at this point I would be very appreciative of and I thank you! :)
Regina

What pictures are you refering to Regina?
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[Tom Shirley]

[quote=Regina;1944]

What pictures are you refering to Regina?

Hello ravellette,

I believe that Regina was referring to the Jacob's photos.

http://www.bigfootreferenceguide.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28&d=1197938244

[Jan]

Severn,
If you wish to contact me in private I would be glad to share information with you about genetics and the possibilities. If you will email me at cobblestonecross@yahoo.com I'll give you an e-mail addie where I can be reached daily.
Yours,
Jan


It is nice to join a forum where everyone is polite. I hope to live up to the standards.

I am interested in Sasquatch genetics and I hope to learn from Jan and Mary Green about Sas health issues. I believe that the ancestors of Sas were either humans like us, or, were Neanderthals. Further, that in a single generation, a DNA copy error occurred to create a diseased state Sasquatch. Similar drastic changes have been documented in the medical literature. For that reason, I am interested in Sas health issues as a way of confirming this theory.

It doesn't surprise me that there is a lot of variability in Sasquatch appearance. Details of the genes imposed upon a fundamentally diseased state (if that is what a Sas is) would be expected to change physical and mental state.

I hope that this viewpoint does not offend anyone else's views. I'm left-handed and we lefties just can help but see the world bit differently. I'm willing to learn what you know. I think we should treat Sas charitably befitting such a state.

I'm 62 and don't have a lot of stamina for field studies, but I would like to make at least one trip to the Kentucky- Tennessee area in an easy terrain area. I'm in Maryland, my user name is named after the Annapolis-Severn River-Odenton tribe of Sasquatch.

[bunnyrabbit]

Hey rodney this is bunnyrabbit. I know you can't hear the dr pepper fizz. Do you remember me?

[Babydoll]

Do not fret Jan. October and November are the slowest months for any forum on the net. Babydoll.